Wednesday, August 21, 2019

Straight Talk About Chabad-Lubavitch - The Real Story Beyond the Fake News Headlines of Dovid/David Lichtenstein's Podcasts

Reb Dovid Lichtenstein, of the Headlines books and podcasts, is an impressive תלמיד חכם and בעל צדקה, with many good deeds to his name, of תורה ומעשים טובים. However, that does not absolve him from criticism and correction when he errs, especially if he errs grievously

Recently he issued a new edition of his Headlines podcast, once again devoted to Chabad-Lubavitch and the relationship between it and Orthodox Jewry in general. This was not the first time he tackled the topic. Approximately two and half years ago he had a similar program, followed by a follow up segment with Rabbi Dr. David Berger, author of a well-known book on Lubavitch messianism. That adds up to three programs, or segments, in around 2 1/2 years, which shows a significant focus on the issue.

In all of these programs Lichtenstein has tried to spin and advocate for Lubavitch. As we know, three times is a חזקה. Lehavdil, in baseball, the rule is three strikes and you're out. So we see that Dovid is a מוחזק to advocate for and distort general facts and positions of גדולים along the way, in his zeal to advocate for Lubavitch. While in the past he disclosed some important background information related to his relationship with Lubavitch (he credited them with helping him with a dangerous medical emergency in one case, and another emergency in another during overseas travels), which makes him a נוגע בדבר and disqualified to rule on the matter, in this last program it was omitted. He also has a close connection to the Lubavitch base near his residence, where the Lubavitcher Rabbi and mashpia Y.Y. Jacobson presides (Dovid hosted him on Headlines in the past with effusive praise, another indication of his sympathies).

Now of course people can advocate and argue for certain positions. However, Lichtenstein crossed the line when he distorted positions of גדולי ישראל in his advocacy. He went into "fake news" territory when he fabricated "facts". Such actions lead to the very dangerous territory of מגלה פנים בתורה שלא כהלכה ח"ו. Therefore a public מחאה is necessary. We hope that David will admit his errors and retract/repent his misstatements in future programs.

Let me elaborate.

Two and a half years ago David posted misleading edited audio snippets on his program implying that leading non-Lubavitcher גדולים gave their hechsher (stamp of approval) to Chabad-Lubavitch (as an aside, there have been complaints about such activity on other episodes of his program as well, on other topics, so that definitely is something that people need to be aware and wary of). Afterward that episode of his program was critiqued here and the distortions and misleading tone of the program brought out into the public view. One might have thought that afterward he would be more careful, but, to my great surprise, in the beginning of his recently released program of a few weeks ago, he replayed the distortions of the earlier one, resharing the misleading audio snippets, as though there were no great issues with them, trying to once again fool his listeners. To that I say, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Even if you are a גביר who is מוזיל כסף כמים.

New distortions

In the (first) prior program we mentioned, Dovid's argument was along the lines of that since Lubavitch as a whole didn't apostasize after the Rebbe's passing, as some had allegedly predicted, and since they do chesed, such as helping travelers, therefore they should be accepted by all, and longstanding serious points of disagreement dropped, or put aside.

In this latest program, he trotted out a new argument, claiming that Lubavitch has made 'hundreds of thousands of baalei teshuvah' (perhaps he can tell us where they reside? Or have they somehow vanished into thin air?), a claim I don't recall hearing even from Lubavitchers themselves. Is that actually true however?

This will lead us to an important look at Chabad-Lubavitch activities.

(As an aside, Lubavitch does not like the expression 'baalei teshuvah' as it is used colloquially, based on the stance of their seventh Rebbe. The Rebbe's position was that some Jews are closer and others farther away, but that even the 'frum' need teshuvah. And they also claim that every mitzvah done is choshuv, even if a person is not a 'baal teshuvah'. Lubavitch, instead, as with other things, has their own vocabulary, they call people who they bought/are bringing closer מקורבים.)

Time to update the picture of what Lubavitcher shluchim do today

Lubavitch has changed over the years, and Dovid should realize that. Lubavitcher shluchim today are not necessarily the same as shluchim at UCLA in the 1960's dealing with non-orthodox hippie types. The shluchim are a varied group involved in various things. Many shluchim now are busy with youth from Modern Orthodox backgrounds at various colleges (maybe the guy's name is Jared, but his background is MO ;-). Many also spend much time as a sort of frum traveler's aid society, helping Jewish travelers with kosher food and other things. Many also work as mashgichim for kashrus.

With the decline of the non-orthodox movements, such as the Conservatives, and the closing of many their Temples, some people who were affiliated or identified with such streams now attend Lubavitch services instead (Lubavitch has now become a significant synagogue movement). But does that mean that they have become Orthodox or baalei teshuvah? Not necessarily so.

To illustrate this point, let us look at a few prominent Jews associated with Lubavitch.

1) Joseph Telushkin - a talented author who Lubavitch paid to write a book promoting the late Rebbe as "the most influential Rabbi in Modern History". He has gone around speaking in Chabad houses around the country promoting it and the Rebbe. So, one might reasonably assume that he is connected to the Orthodox movement. However, believe it or not, Joe Telushkin is actually the leader of a non-orthodox Temple in California, something that caused a significant group of Lubavitchers to come out against his book.

(By the way, a while ago I was in someone's house and saw some recent issues of Mishpacha magazine. In one of them - say an issue of maybe 6-8 weeks ago - some people that Mishpacha promotes as frum Jewish leaders gave recommendations for summer reading. One of them offered a book by a controversial figure who had crudely attacked Rav Moshe Feinstein זצ"ל. After much protest, in a subsequent issue Mishpacha apologized for promoting it. Yet at the same time, in the same magazine, neo-Chasidus leader Rabbi Judah Mischel recommended a book by the leader of a non Orthodox Temple, Joseph Telushkin, also something quite questionable. However,  I didn't see Mishpacha apologize for that afterward. Why does Judah Mischel and that book get a free ride, while the other did not?)

2) Dennis Prager - longtime friend and associate of Joseph Telushkin, someone who also speaks at Chabad Houses and promotes Lubavitch. However, he also declares openly that he is non orthodox and espouses some troubling positions.

3) Alan Dershowitz - recently a sefer Torah was written for him which was given to 770 Eastern Parkway. However, Dershowitz is non-orthodox.

The above three were raised Modern Orthodox and then moved on from that. But they are still accepted and feted by Chabad-Lubavitch.

4) Sue Fishkoff - author of a book that came out a few years ago, The Rebbe's Army, a positive portrayal of Lubavitch, who recently wrote a piece for the twenty fifth anniversary of the Rebbe's passing. She declares openly in it that she is not Orthodox.

The above four are a few prominent examples, but it seems that they are many others like them. People that go to and associate with Lubavitch, but remain non orthodox. That does not fit in with David Lichtenstein's claim of hundreds of thousands of 'baalei teshuvah'. Yes, perhaps there are hundreds of thousands of people who have encounters with Lubavitch in a year. But that doesn't equate to 'hundreds of thousands of Lubavitcher baalei teshuvah' in the colloquial sense of the term. I know the argument that every mitzvah is important, but nevertheless, we cannot claim that such people are fully Orthodox.

Chazal tell us אמר רבי יוחנן אין הקב"ה מקפח שכר כל בריה. Hashem will not deprive people of שכר they people deserve. The record keeping, so to speak, upstairs is done very well, so whoever is entitled to credit there does not have to worry that they will be cheated of it. But, at the same time, חותמו של הקב"ה אמת, we need to stick to the facts, the truth, the seal of Hashem. IIRC, the last Lubavitcher Rebbe himself, when asked about history, instructed that it should be אמת לאמיתו.


PR vs. צניעות. 

Another thing Lichtenstein objects to in the most recent program under discussion is when his guest Rabbi Lederman says that Rav Schach זצ"ל did not like the excessive focus on PR of Chabad-Lubavitch. He challenges his guest about it, as if even raising such a point is absurd. To which I say, David, have you forgotten fundamentals of our holy Torah, such as Rashi on שמות לד:ג, where the teaching of Chazal is cited about the לוחות שניות being given בצניעות , היפך הראשונות, שאין לך דבר יפה מן הצניעות? The famous posuk in Micha which we lein where it is stated מה ה' דורש ממך....והצנע לכת עם אלקיך??

Yes, I know that pirsum/PR is a big thing for Lubavitch, and making a 'kiddush Lubavitch' is a big thing for them, but that does not erase the great, venerable, ancient yesod of צניעות in Yiddishkeit.

Yes, דער וואס האט די מאה האט די דעה, the one with the meah ($), has the deiah, as the old expression goes. So Dovid can have his deiah - but he cannot distort the deios of others, בפרט רבנים, פוסקים, גדולי ישראל ומנהיגי הדור  שליט"א.

Reb Dovid, there is another Yid with your name, also involved in ארץ (real property) and שמים (Torah), of a similar vintage as you, who has done great things for Torah, Rav Dovid Hofstedter שליט"א of Dirshu. I think you can learn some things from him. Note how he is מכיר את מקומו.

I have enjoyed listening to Headlines many times, but, as time has gone by, it seems that the host has moved more and more from being a moderator and presenter, to being someone pushing a particular point of view. If it is done forthrightly and not in a hidden manner, without distortion and misleading presentation, that is one thing, he is entitled to his opinion. But when certain lines are crossed, it needs to be called out.

Let us hope that steps are taken to correct the missteps outlined above, and that the honor and reputation of the program and its host is restored.

14 comments:

  1. Thank you! Someone has to speak up and you are stepping up to the plate.

    Yosef

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  2. ברוך תהיה, thanks for the encouragement.

    The above words were not written lightly or hastily, rather quite seriously, after much observation and contemplation.

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  3. Thank you for yhis well written and insightful post.
    You are a lone voice in the desert. Unfortunately since no one else is addressing the issue of Chabad in general, the Chabad PR machine is steadily making successful inroads into even sects that previoysly rejected them. This is happening even in Litvish bastions, most notably YU, no doubt in large part as a result of yhe burgeoning Neo Chassidic movement. They have made Chabad a large part of their agenda.

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    1. Thanks for the support!

      I know that getting this message and information disseminated is challenging. I do not have the $ of David Lichtenstein, who puts a lot into his program. I don't have the PR machine of Chabad Lubavitch, nor the resources of organizations like Camp HASC and YU that are being co-opted by neo-Chasidim to advance their agenda, or of publications like the glossy Mishpacha magazine, which promotes them in their shiny manner.

      But there is one thing that we have, that is the most valuable thing - אמת. And even though we live in an עלמא דשיקרא, Emes has a great כח, which is ignored or underestimated at great peril. Emes can bring and has brought down millionaires and billionaires, and powerful institutions. Emes can cut through sheker and flattery like a hot knife through butter.

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  4. hi
    i understand your your considerations about chabad lubavitch, and it does seem that chabad steal the show, but ive looked into the matter myelf over the past 5 years, im 27, and i havent found them going against halocha or apikorsus. there is much to gain from sifrey chabad from the 7 rebbes as with breslov and rav kook. in terms of apikorsus, davening to a dead rabbi is a machlokes haposkim in the mateh ephraim where he brings down poskim that say this is a sakonah and those that bring proofs from the gemorah and zohar that people did this. in terms of shituf with tzaddikim, this again is brought down in the gemorah taanis that rabbi meir said one can say elokoh derabbi meir anneni, rabbi nachman says the same thing. i find it incredible that people equate the lubavitcher rebbe as the son of god. this is used to mire him. im not even lubavitch, but im finding it hard to find apikorsus in what they hold of and practice. rav yosher ber soloveitchik says that it isnt apikorsus to beleive in a dead rebbe being the moshiach. the abarbanel says this already. (chazal say moshe rabeinu is going to come back from the dead and lead klall yisroel. the gemorah in sanhedrin chelek says that the moshiach will come from the galil and commentaries explain this to be reffering to the rashbi. the arizal stands for eloki rabbi yitzchok. which could either mean he was godly person or as rabbi aryeh kaplan explains in books on meditation a prophetic seer, meaning a meshiach-christ concioussness. its brought down in sefer likutim by rav moshe dovid valli a student of the ramchal that jesus was supposed to be the moshiach be yosef of the generation but went sour as we all know. we also say in the song lekovod hatanah elokai rabbi shimmon bar yochai. the gemorah also uses the expression pney rabo, pney haschinoh. the poeint is there is more to gain than to bash. yes they are obsessed with the 7th rebbe. but i dont see the problem with chabad seforim.
    anyway thankyou for your time.

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    1. With all due respect Yosef, you are only twenty seven, you have much yet to learn.

      The issues you mentioned are just a few of the issues involved, not the totality of the basis of the broad and deep opposition to Chabad-Lubavitch within Orthodoxy. There is a lot more to it, even if your points were accepted by all, which they are not.

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    2. You're comment could be exhibit A of how the Chabad propaganda machine is successfully brainwashing young innocent fine people like yourself.

      Chabad has worked out to a science how to twist gemarahs and other sources out of context to prove their philosophies, and your Mateh Efraim is case in point.

      EVEN IF (we'll get to it in a moment) the MA legitimately is open to a shitah that one can talk to meisim, it only means that one can ask the nefesh to intercede on his behalf (go look at his words). It does not mean one can pray to the meis ! Nor can he be "mekasher himself" to it. These would be the transgression of medaber el hameisim. And that is what many do at the "ohel", as well as many in Uman and most recently Kerestirer. With respect to the MA, you (hopefully mistakenly) distorted his words, where you make it sound like he merely brings two shitos. He does not. He paskens straight up that one should not talk to the meis at all , period. In the FOOTNOTES he brings that there are other shitahs (which we already explained). But he does not hold of that opinion at all.

      There are so many other sources that Chabad twists out of context, to the point of "proving" from various gemarahs the rebbe is alive.


      Aside for the blatant kefirah and lunacy in Chabad, there is sharp opposition to Chabad hashkafos in many other areas as well . Such as learning only "penimiyus haTorah", respect for Torah scholars, teffilin campaigns, and a host of other areas. These philosophies were becoming extinct over the years but unfortunately have been brought back by the Neo movement who have mainstreamed Chabad in a big way.

      IY"H you will grow older and see the truth of hoe you were being misled with your own eyes.

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  5. Update 9/7/19: Lichtenstein strikes again.

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    1. Thanks.

      I am aware of his latest program, listened to part of it already, and may iy"H respond to it separately in the coming days.

      The way he is going, I wouldn't be too surprised if he turns up as guest speaker at a forthcoming Lubavitch shluchim conference banquet, the next one of which should be in like 2-3 months from now. They usually have a prominent outsider there lauding the shluchim and Chabad-Lubavitch in general, telling them how great they are, and so on. Which is what David has been doing on his program.

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  6. This past episode was especially egregious. I can't believe that anyone listening wouldn't be put off by how much he is pushing his agenda.
    LB

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  7. Dear Mr litvak. Would you say that Chabad and breslov are novardok and slabodka in the litvish world. Breslov is about hitbonenut-hitbodedus/cheshbon hanefesh which is tikun hamidos the school of thought of novardok and slabodka is like Chabad which is the whole bitul program and dirah betachtonah, slabodka being princely attitude. In essence the 2 schools of thought are really the machlokes between yosef and Yehudah. breslov is all about hiskashrus to the tzaddik like yosef and Chabad like Yehudah.
    Anyway i think the litvish world would have less to protest the 2 if they resurrected their own similar past movements.

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    1. Your are implying that the protests coming from the Litvishe world against Lubavitch and Breslov are because the Litvishe don't have similar movements.
      This is absurd. The Litvaks believe there are inherent problems with L&B, and they have had this position for hundreds of years; even when Novarhodok and Slabodka were in their zenith.

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  8. Interesting idea.

    There is still some Novhardok left, but much more of Slabodka. In general, I think that the growing dominance of Brisk in parts of the Litvishe world in recent decades has gone too far. People need to know that there is great variety within the Litvishe velt. Maybe the older dor knows it, but some of the younger people do not, and they think that Litvak = Brisker, and that all Litvaks consider Brisk the purest, most authentic, exalted, and sublime Litvishe stream. Not true at all!

    To me it is definitely an important Litvishe school, or stream, but not the totality of Lita, by no means.

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  9. Rabbi Yisroel Salanter, when starting the Mussar movement, noted that there are people who are learned but their ethics are sorely lacking. I think this describes Dovid Lichtenstein to a tee. He's certainly entitled to his opinion about Chabad but he has no right to distort the facts. I was particularly repulsed by his shameless defamation of Dr. Berger who is a scholar and a real mentch. I won't waste the readers' time with a long harangue about Chabad, but suffice it to say that while they keep the mitzvos flawlessly, their belief system does not reflect normative Judaism. To be fair, there are many fine Lubavichers and they have done some good, but my overall impression based on years of observation is quite negative. Until they finally accept that the Rebbe was not a prophet, and was not Moshiach they won't be able to rejoin the fold, but the lies that Lubavich has been propagating to the outside world and within their community for the last two hundred years makes me skeptical that there's any hope for them. I hold their leaders responsible for perpetuating these lies.

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